University Senate
Memorandum
Date: April 30, 2010
To: The Academic Community
From: Sharon Pitcher, Secretary of the Senate
Subject: Minutes of April 5, 2010 - Meeting of the University Senate
The seventh regular meeting of the University Senate will be held on Monday, April 5, 2010, at 4:00 p.m. in Rooms 314-315 of the University Union.
Provost Welsh
Professor Siegel asked about the Academic Plan and why a meeting of the Senate was not included. The Provost explained that some of the meetings have included Senators, but this is not governance. Professor Siegel emphasized that the Senate has to approve new programs, and suggested that it would be helpful if the Senate was involved. Time does not allow for all groups to meet. She will give this some thoughts and get back to us.
Professor Vatz asked about workload. He explained about the email sent to the faculty of CoFAC was a major change and if it is not a major change, it is perceived by faculty as a change. He also suggested that faculty outside of CoFAC were concerned that this was a “trial balloon”. The provost replied that the chair of Professor Vatz’s department was following the established workload policy in place as expressed by an email from his chair. The provost emphasized that this was not a “trial balloon”. She also stressed that this was not the place for a CoFAC workload issue. Professor Vatz responded that the chair’s email was a small retrenchment from what the dean said. The provost again explained that the established workloads are still being followed and this is not a change in policy. Professor Knutson then asked if this is a change. The provost responded that she spoke to the dean and he explained that it was not a change.
Professor Durington asked about a discussion of 50 advisees being considered for a course release. Professor Sullivan responded that this release was system policy and was being honored. Professor Siegel suggested that we should see the workload documents. Professor Provost responded that this may not be easy to do, but that there should be copies in the departments. She suggested that the senators request the workload documents from their department chairs. Professor Siegel suggested that this could come before the Council of Chairs to share with departments. Provost Welsh agreed to bring this up with the Council of Chairs. Professor Slotkins suggested that it is more difficult to get a 3/3 and that the standards seem to be changed. The problems could be changes of how the existing rules are being applied. The provost responded that she is only hearing perceptions, but she would have to collect data to see if there is a change. Professor Knutson suggested that this should be brought to the Promotion and Tenure Committees to clarify. Professor Vatz shared that there are people that have lost their 3/3 load and the Dean came out with numbers to prove this that it will save thousands of dollars. Provost Welsh explained the economy is tough so people may be enforcing policies that they may have been lax on before.
Professor Zimmerman commented that in his department that the workload is very clearly defined and is being followed. In his department, though, the courses are overflowing with students. He has been assigned five or six students over the number allowed. Provost Welsh clarified that they are bumping up the number of students in the classes, but they need to do this so that they do not have to go to layoffs. Professor Burks pointed out that many times the class sizes are too big for the maximum class size. The provost responded that she will look into that, because it should not happen. Professor Burks then asked what the status of the Chapter 3 is and the provost responded that it is still at the university attorney’s office. They are very busy, but we have asked them to try to get it back this semester.
Vice President Rubin
Matthew Durington, AAUP
The Faculty Association/TU-AAUP Spring Meeting will be Friday, April 9th, from 3-4 PM in the Riderwood Room of the Burkshire Marriott, with Happy Hour to follow in the University Club.
At the meeting, we'll receive reports on Faculty Association initiatives including the Primary Caregiver Childcare Policy and plans for a Primary Caregiver Family Care Policy; a Salary and Compensation Report; a discussion of Shared Governance and Lecturers (and other contingent faculty) at Towson; and plans for a potential Fall semester Teach-in on particular higher education issues.
2) A meeting of the Junior Faculty Committee--open to all interested junior faculty!--will directly precede the regular meeting, in the same place. The JFC meeting will begin at 2 PM.
3) There will also be a "Third Friday" event in April: on April 16th, from 3:30-4:30 PM, in the Burkshire Marriott (room pending and email will be sent) the Faculty Association is sponsoring a workshop on a voluntary faculty mentoring program we are planning to pilot next year being crafted by our colleague Pamela Lottero-Perdue. All interested are invited and encouraged to attend (this is the make-up date for the original workshop which was snowed out in February).
Finally, look for the announcement regarding the open period of voting for University Committee Faculty Elections. Voting will begin soon and run for a couple of weeks.
Professor Siegel, CUSF
Jon Graf, SGA
Kay Kalinski, TUSC Representative
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
Professor Sullivan pointed out that the PTR&M committee has sent a recommendation to the Senate on how this should be done. Professor Burks explained that the PTR&M committee has worked on this for along time and it is a better document that was originally sent to them. The committee, though, still has quite a few concerns about this document and thought it should be discussed by a larger body. They were concerned about how the numbers would be tabulated and how the online delivering would affect response rates. The Office of Assessment made changes they suggested, but they still are concerned. Professor Bergman reinforced what Professor Bergs said. He reinforced that Vice President Trainer has done a good job in taking into consideration their comments, but the committee is concerned about the online delivery.
Professor Vatz felt many of the questions were irrelevant and the document is lengthy. Provost Welsh asked for examples. Professor Vatz gave the following examples about subjective reality such as the ones about being challenged intellectually and learning a great deal. He also pointed out the ones about the instructor caring about student learning and challenging them to think in new ways were trite and were difficult for students to determine. His major concern is that this was another example of the faculty loosing autonomy over their courses. He also questioned the validity of the questions. Provost Welsh responded that Professor Vatz was underestimating our students. She also suggested the primary use of the instrument is for the faculty to make their courses better and should not just be a tenure instrument. She suggested any faculty who gets 2s and never does anything to improve that score should be involved in other conversations about teaching and the evaluation should only be part of the decision. Professor Vatz responded that his department has a much better 15-question evaluation, which he would be glad to share. He suggested forcing students to take a lengthy evaluation invalidates the evaluation.
Professor Pitcher reinforced Provost Welsh’s point that tenure decisions should not be made by using the evaluation only. She also, though, pointed out that the overall question rating the instructor with a number, which departments use on AR documents, unfairly diminishes the faculty member’s work. In her department, they use a grand mean of all of the questions that ask about all of the work that a faculty member does. Often students who do not do well in a course will focus on a question like that one to rate a professor to get back at an instructor. She also suggested some re-wording of some of the other questions. Provost Welsh pointed out that the questions about rating the instructor and the course were added by the PTR&M Committee.
Professor Webster also pointed out some questions that were not clear. He explained having high expectations for learning is sometimes not valued by students. He pointed out many students think the instructor gives the grade instead of them earning it. He suggested that the word fair was not a good term throughout because different students have different definitions of “fair”. He also pointed out that different students would define “deep knowledge”. He also pointed out that these numbers do count. They are used by promotion and tenure committees. If they do not matter, then why use them at all.
Professor Manesse pointed out that the length is an issue. She also pointed out that all of the questions are asked in the same manner so that when students get survey fatigue, they go down and answer, “agree”. She suggested that the answers needed to be mixed up.
Professor Siegel asked whether the intent was to have the questions about the course counted in any way against the faculty member because often the faculty member does not have a say about the course itself. Professor Siegel also suggested if the questions are being used only for the instructor benefit, they can be useful. If that is all they are going to be used for, that would be okay, but she does not think that is the case. Provost Welsh then read from the document supplied by the PTR&M Committee about the purposes of survey saying that the faculty member should report the numbers rating the course and the instructor on the AR submission. She then explained she was in the meeting when the PTR&M members asked for those questions with the rating numbers because they thought faculty would want to report a number. The committee then suggests that the complete surveys for each course should also be submitted with the AR and the AR process should be revised to reflect this.
Senator Graf thanked the provost for getting input from students. He pointed out that he was concerned about that the online delivery and the length of the survey. He also pointed out the questions do need more work. He realizes that he takes classes in different departments and has seen many of the questions on this survey on evaluations that he has already filled out. He also pointed out that students they talked to did not object to the online deliver. The students suggested that the grades be withheld until the survey is completed.
Professor Knutson suggested that she does not have problems with being assessed, but many of these questions on this survey are not measurable. You cannot measure caring and assigning a number to it. Whether she meets with students can be measured but caring is not measurable. Many kids would interpret it differently. There are some protocols about writing objectives that are measurable that should be considered. This questions do not meet the high standards that she has to meet for her scholarship.
Provost Welsh responded that sometimes we need to know what the perception is, which is beyond actual data points. Provost Welsh emphasized that she is very committed to this going online because of the expense and some students object to the handwritten ones because faculty know their handwriting so they refuse to do that. If they type it in, no one will know who wrote the response. Professor Knutson responded she has an issue with the integrity of the document and it should meet the rigors of the different disciplines that construct surveys and write goals and objectives.
Professor Tabak agreed that the issues brought up on the validity of the questions needs to be considered. She does survey research and the issues brought up are valid issues. She also pointed out that she agrees with provost that the survey results should be for the faculty, but she knows that the numbers are being used for other purposes. She also has concerned about the centralization because one survey does not consider the different disciplines. Considering how the document is going to be used, every word needs to be considered. She also explained that the administration assistant in her department figures out the numbers from their department survey, so they get the results in a timely manner and can make changes to their courses.
Provost Welsh responded that one of the main reason this should go online is cost savings. Having an administrative assistant sitting and tabulating data is not a good use of an administrative assistant. She also pointed out that all that she sees is a number and she does not know what those numbers mean. Also, many departments put comparisons with other departments and the university, but she does not know what these comparisons mean or where they get them. She suggests that having this centralized would be significantly better for university decision making.
Professor Cox suggested that the information about technology, textbooks, and Blackboard are not something that faculty have control over so if the university needs that information, it could be collected in another way and not on the faculty evaluation. She also suggested that she does use the information from the evaluations and so do her peers. She also suggested that students should have the right to refuse to answer the survey. She agreed that she does not get the feedback in enough time to make decisions.
Provost Welsh responded that this is why this is a problem. It takes too long and we also had to add more money to have the evaluations scored. We do not have money to add staff to do this in every department. She also explained that students will have a choice to take the survey, but their grades will be held up for a time period. This is a choice they are making.
Professor Lawson asked whether department PTR&M committees could decide what questions were used to evaluation the faculty member verses using an overall rating. Professor Sullivan responded the departments could make the decisions on how they were using the survey. Provost Welsh clarified that departments could make that decision.
Professor Vatz asked whether the departments would have the opportunity to decide what to use on this survey. Provost Welsh suggested the PTR&M committee felt they needed to put forward a way to use the numbers and that with the new Chapter 3, all of the PTR&M Committees would need to come back to the them. They felt there had to be one way to judge faculty, but she did think that the departments could make decisions. Professor Burks suggested the committee had all of the same concerns. They did not write this, and the Assessment Committee did listen to their concerns. They met with Kate Dennison and she said that if there was an item that a department felt did not meet their needs that they could take that out. Professor Berks was skeptical about that would happen. They are still concerned about the online delivery, because University of Maryland has a low response rate for an online delivery.
Professor Vatz asked whether the department could make choices on the items that they want to use. Provost Welsh suggested that the document could not be changed, but she felt department could decide what items were used. Senator Kalinski shared that she attends class at another USM institution that does use an online survey in two components. One survey is sent out for all of the courses and a short evaluation is then sent out for each course. She also pointed out that it is laid out differently with different types of answers for each question. Also, they they cannot get into their course until the evaluation is filled out.
Senator Puglisi shared that he was glad to hear that faculty are concerned about these. He asked about when this survey would be sent out. Provost Welsh was not sure, but Vice President Trainor responded that it would be sent out two weeks before the end of the class. He did think the response would be higher if the grades were withheld. Senator Puglisi shared that he has taken classes in all but the honors college and most of the evaluations were similar to this.
Professor Burks further explained that she preferred department evaluations but she did feel that this one is an improvement over what they first saw. The committee also suggested the title of “Course Feedback Survey” since it is not an evaluation because it does not have the rigor.
Professor Zimmerman suggests that we table the survey and have the assessment people and those with expertise in survey instruments work on this. He also suggested that although he really does not like the online survey idea, he does realize that we need to save the money. He then suggested that we have another motion to approve an online instrument of some type. Motion carries to table this survey 18-1-2. Motion to support an online survey instrument of some type. Professor Siegel asked whether this would preclude having a separate online instrument for department. Provost Welsh responded that this would not be cost effective. Professor Zimmerman then revised his motion to say that the Senate would support a single online survey with optional college/departmental questions. Professor Vatz then asked for clarification of the motion. Professor Sullivan then clarified that the motion was for one centralized online survey. Professor Siegel then suggested the departments should be able to add to the document and that PTR&M should approve the document. Professor Zimmerman felt that the Senate should approve the document. Professor Maronic voiced that he was opposed to the online survey and the pressure on the students to fill it out, which could cause negative reactions as a result of that. He also was not clear why departments could not have individual survey instruments. Professor Webster suggested that we could use Survey Monkey. Professor Worgs also was opposed to this instrument because he does not think these questions measure his objectives. If he could measure his objectives, he would be open to that. Professor Knutson was not opposed to an online survey because students are used to working online. She is accepting the idea of a centralized survey, but thinks it should have some individualized factor. Professor Bergman suggested that in his experience on PTR&M that effort is being made to take feedback on this form. He understands the need to save money for travel or other faculty need. He also suggests that this does not procure departments could have additional documents. Provost Welsh explains that the point of this is to be more effective and cost effective. Professor Sullivan asked about withdrawing the document. Senator Sebring suggested that we amend the question to have an online survey. Professor Zimmerman and Professor Bergman were asked if they agree to the amendment. Professor Bergman agreed but Professor Slotkins disagreed. Professor Zimmerman withdrew the motion. Straw votes suggested opposition to a single survey and support for an online survey.
The Senate meeting was adjourned at 6:20. The Senate will reconvene on May 3rd, 2010.